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of america, health insurance isn't a privilege, it's your right. >> there are many conservatives standing up and saying, look, obamacare is going to be a disaster for the country. >> because in the united states of america, health insurance isn't a privilege, it's your right. >> as i travel around kentucky and around the country, people come up to me and say stand firm, stand up, try to stop this monstrosity, it's going to be bad for the country. >> i can tell you there was a popular physician at my town hall that obamacare shouldn't go forward. >> the fast majority of the american people oppose this plan, they don't want obamacare. >> i'm going to do everything in my power to make sure this law works as it's supposed to because in the united states of america, health insurance isn't a privilege, it's your right, and we're going to keep it this way. >> apparently former congressman allan west isn't impressed about what the president said about health insurance being a right. he calls president obama, quote, a very dangerous threat to the
very existence of america. >> you got one thing wrong. >> what's that. >> it's america is the congressional republic, that was the entire sentence that i used. and that's an important thing to understand. when you have a president standing there saying that health care is a right. and when you go and look at the declaration of independence, thomas jefferson said that the inalienable rights come from the crate for and that goes back to natural law theory. he said that specifically that they don't come from man and man makes up government. now all of a sudden government believes they're the ones that grant you your rights and they can take those rights away. that's why jefferson said a government that's big enough to give you everything you want is
also big announce to take it away. think about this, greta, the last time we had a president talk about american individuals having a right to a certain thing, it was when jimmy carter said that every american had a right to own a home. that was the community reinvestment act. you fast forward later to 2008, we had this incredible financial meltdown based on the mortgage industry and government getting involving -- you say that he's a dangerous threat to the existence of america. is that just congressman allan west getting on a roll, or is that genuinely what you believe, that he's a dangerous threat to america? >> as i said, it's -- i quoted
in that book by montague, that talks about the separation of laws and the checks and balances. the president should not be able to delay certain parts of law. he should not be able to delay or put this cap on the out of pocket expenses. because once a piece of legislation has passed through the house, has passed through the senate, is signed into lawably the president. that's the cherry picking. that's a threat to the constitutional republic when the president is trying to cherry pick law. >> when we talk about health care, but different things have been cherry picked, the employer mandate, that's been capped for a year. the out of pocket expenses, that's been postponed. so there is some cherry picking going on. is there -- i mean is there anyone besides congressman allan
west who is raising this issue? >> i don't sit around wondering what other people say. chances are, if it's not going to resonate if you're the only one. >> i think it's resonating because i'm sitting here talking to you about it. when we start to get away from those things, when we start to have a supreme court that's letting slalegislating from the bench. >> you talk about legislating from the bench. a typical politician likes to have the supreme court govern from the bench so they can go in and burst into your houses.
every time you create an exception to the fourth amendment, there's an awful lot of legislating being done by the court. people are for it if it happened to be something they like, and there's other things -- >> i'm just a straight shooter. and this comes back to another thing that happens in the affordable care act. when they ruled that the individual mandate was lawful, there should have been one question. with the individual mandate with the commerce clause. >> the democrats also said and pushed in supporting and pushing the individual mandates that it was not a tax and then suddenly later they wanted to call it a tax. now why do we have the employer mandate being delayed but yet the individual mandate? >> you got a theory on that one? >> you got to ask the question about that. >> what's your theory on that. >> my theory is that it fits an
agenda and it -- >> if everybody gets a special deal out of this obamacare, the whole idea of it that everybody's contributing to pitch in to lower the cost, that it's going to very quickly vanish if not gone. >> that's why max baucus called it a train wreck. >> all right, congressman, i want to ask you about the obamacare navigators, they whether have access to the personal information of millions of americans but the newly hired navigators will not undergo background checks themselves. do you have a problem with that? >> i have a huge problem with that. that's what we were just talking about, greta. >> it's extraordinary. >> it is extraordinary and if we don't have people and voices that are bringing the attention to do training, they don't
qualify for the obamacare coverage because they don't work full-time. they're going to be having access to your personal records. but yet, there's no background checks for these individuals and a lot of these individuals. >> the amount of personal information that many people fear is going to be out there. you would at least hope it was trusted. i mean we can't even trust sort of the spy information with the nsa. so how in the world are we going to -- i think snowden probably had more of a background check when he was dealing with more significant things. but there's not any sort of check, on who they are, why they might want the information, how much access they have. >> that's the problem when thaw think about the credibility of the government, period. i mean not just the administration, but the house t senate, and also these
bureaucratic agencies such as the hhs that's going to be bringing on these people who are not going to have the background checks, but they're going to have access to your medical records and your social security numbers and all these things. >> do we just let it slide? >> i think when we get our colleagues back on the house side and the senate side, one of the things we need to look at is they need to take this off the shelf and look at what the affordable care act is about. >> apparently they're not doing that. there are a number of state attorneys general who have written hhs, they have pointed out that they want a response from sebelius by the 28th of august. but they write, personnel in many of the new programs is significant access to consumers personal information, yet hh s's relevance and guidance lacks clarity providing governance protection. and the rules over these
navigators does not even require background checks or fingerprints before they are hired. and no criminal actses are per se disqualifying. >> i would say don't hold your breath to get an answer back from sebelius because about 50% or 60% has missed obamacare deadlines over the last three years. but the states' attorney generals should not allow these navigators to start accessing american private records unless they get some answers back. we cannot allow people to have this kind of access without b k background checks. >> it's alarming they have access to personal information. >> when you sign up for these exchanges, they have got to get your basic information, your social security information, your medical information because
that's part of the assessment to go into these exchanges and when you look at the fact that the president's going to be going out to new york and he's going to go to college campuses, if they don't get enough people in these exchanges, they're going to see a huge collapse. and you're going to see a lot of that between now and october when it's supposed to kick in. >> to have your medical history is not -- >> it comes back to the credibility of the federal government right now. >> and the credibility of the federal government is not particularly high with a lot of americans. >> if you are worried about obamacare, what it means for you, listen up, you have heard about the employer mandate delay and caps in out of pocket costs, but tonight there's a lot more news about missed obamacare deadlines. the obama administration admits at least half of its health care deadlines, more than half.
senator tim scott joins us, good evening, sir. >> the numbers are staggering, 82 deadlines be the crs which is a nonpartisan -- nine out of 12 deadlines, year three they missed ten of 17. for a total of 41 out of 82 deadlines. your thought about that? >> remarkable. i think this is one of the obvious signs that obamacare is doomed to fail. i think if we think about the delays holistically, we ought to consider four facets of the delays. but first part is the delays themselves. the second part is the timing of some of the delays. the third thing i would talk about is the authority for delays and the fourth, how do they communicate these delays to the american people? they have used blogs. they have embedded some of the delays in 600 pages of regulations. you think about the entire
employer mandate being delayed. this destroys the 40-hour workweek, so what do they do? they wait until 2014 which is not an election year to have a serious conversation with employers and employees about the number of hours they will be expected to work. think about the fact that the foundation of obamacare in and of itself is a delay. they collect revenues for four years and the so-called benefits are for six years. the new revenues in premiums and higher taxes, and they call that balancing. so when you think through the notion of delays, it's not simply the fact that we're talking about the employer mandate being delayed a year. or the out of pocket expense being delayed. >> one of the things the congressional research service says most of these deadlines are not for mission critical features of the law. but i think those delays just
show a level of incompetence and they haven't deliver what they promised. so i think that's the level of bureaucratic incomp tense. but a number of the rules, according to crs, a number of rules that would safeguard the privacy of medical records have either yet to be developed or have been meaningfully tardy in their arrivals. and we're talking about the navigators not taking background checks, but they're not ready for the safeguard of privacy of medical records. that's not an insignificant feature of the bill. >> it's very significant. as we think through all the delays holistically, what we realize is that obamacare is too complex, too big and certainly too expensive. so what we're seeing today is the realization of what we all feared. and that is simply that at some point the whole notion of obamacare will implode and it will leave the taxpayers of america beholden to something
that they don't understand, they didn't ask for it and they can't aford. so when we think about the impact of certain things, like the shop, exchanges, the small business exchanges being delayed about another year because they are unprepared to go forward and they're also delaying the implementation of their exchange websites. >> how can administration have the gal or the audacity for not buying the individual mandate when they themselves are not writing what was promised for us. they would have privacy rules in effect so we would feel comfortable. it looks like they haven't done is that. it's really a sort of lame effort. they expect the rest of us to comply. why -- and if we don't, we get penalized. >> there's no common sense --
they're paying attention to this meandering process of obamacare. which are six weeks or so away from the beginning of the exchanges, october 1. we're still writing the regulation. 7'3" tall of the environment. how can we understand the consequence si or the lack of contradictions in that regulatory environment if it's not even completed yet. then there are facets of the entire regulatory process that say we're going to trust you on your income. so the verification provisions say that if you have 400% of poverty, or 300% of poverty, you get two different types of credits, two different types of preferences. i think it just speaks to the
lack of true policy makes that we saw when you passed the bill and then read it to see what's in it. this is a nightmare. >> i think that the government for the government imposed upon us a compliance requirement, the government ought to comply with its own rules and what it said it would do. but i don't have any influence on that. senator, as always, thank you. >> thank you very much. now to tonight's hot button issue on greta wire.com. do you agree with president obama that health insurance is a right? yes or no. go to greta wire.com and vote in our poll. and six weeks to go and they better be ready. health care exchanges due to open for business october 1. but now some more distressing news, some major companies want out, refusing to participate. what will that mean for you and for the state? governor scott walker is here. also a former marine going
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have they kept you abreast of what's going on and will they be ready? >> it's left up to the federal government and it's the reason why i and others across t ultimately trying to believe in the states for something they're ultimately doing. so its unfortunate for the country that theics changes are what happens if the feds are like it 90% ready. and they really do have the security safeguards out. they have navigators, but they're not going to check the backgrounds, that's not necessarily a ready requirement, but it might concern a lot of americans as to who has the inf. it's abo 90% done or finished.
what are you going to say to the people of wisconsin? >> in our state, you look just the american -- the society of actuaries points out that they will be according to them an 82% increase in the premiums in the next couple of years in obamacare in the affordable exchanges. that's not obamacare, that's anything but that. but at the same time, you see not only the higher cost of individuals, you see the uncertainty that's coming from other employers in the state. it's a massive problem all the way around. i hope they will do just like they did in the employer mandate. but unfortunately, the decision they made to push back the employer mandate was policy drimp and i don't see them that making that. >> do you think the contact with hhs or are they on their own?
>> you're going to see it in the next couple of weeks as things become further behind across the country, they're going to try to push and make the states be a partner in the blame. this is a federal exchange. and even the states that have chosen to do a regular exchange, have chosen to do it under the confines of the federal law. this is going to continue to have a negative impact on our economy. they're going to have to hire full-time imemployees and we're having -- i hope this administration will see the problems and push to delay it. >> i have not seen yet in the interest of premiums, how much they're going up, i heard 41%.
but humana and -- saying they will not participate. do you have any idea the premium increase will be in wisconsin and what impact those two companies will be who do not participate. >> they will be making announces -- >> that's not next year. >> no, the society of actuaries pointed out between now and 2017. but we think it could very well likely be close to that from what we're hearing and those announcements will come out fairly soon. my hope is, again, as someone who's obviously concerned and would like to see the repeal of obamacare at the national level, certainly those who are depending on it hate to see that kind of increase. >> and in terms of humana and united health care, the profound impact of those numbers are going to be absorbed, is there
going to be competition with whoever does get involved? >> they look at the marketplace and they say this is not a marketplace they want to mbe a part of it. the better alternative is not have the federal nor the state involved in health care decisions, it should ultimately be left up to consumers. >> coming up, is the government sticking its nose in your business now more than ever? hear what congressman tom price has to say next. and peculiar new details [ female announcer ] a classic macaroni & cheese from stouffer's starts with freshly-made pasta, and 100% real cheddar cheese. but what makes stouffer's mac n' cheese best of all. that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. made with care for you or your family.
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regulations are important, but they're not benign. regulations add about $2 trillion worth of costs to the american people. so in essence we double the taxes on the american people just because of regulation. and in this administration what we have seen is a huge explosion in the highest monetarily significant ones, those u.n. overer 100 years. >> we had a small businessman about a week ago that runs a family bakery out in the middle and he said his brother is part of the family bakery and his job is just to do the paper work. i mean an employee just to do paper work in a bakery? >> it's amazing. as a physician i spent 20 years taking care of patients and i remember the months when the number of individuals we had in the back office that never saw a
patient, that never treated a patient or even had their hands on taking care of patients exceeded the number of people in the front office and that was mostly because of regulation. and that's true in every single sector in our economy now. it's an important thing for people to appreciate, when you have regulations that businesses are spending their money on making certain they comply with the regulations then they're not able to create jobs, and that's part of the unemployment pictures that we see. >> in president obama's first administration, the first four years, that there were about 13,000 new rules and regulations, but it was slightly less than president bush in his first term. this is continuing president after president 56 president. >> it has happened through both democrat and republican administrations. the difference in this administration, however, the ones that are financially
significant, those that cost the taxpayer, the american people more than $100,000, more than we have ever seen. businesses are spending more money on regulation, that baker that you talked about. that individual is spending more money on regulation, which means they can't invest in their business, they can't create jobs, they can't do the research and development. >> there's no provision to get rid of dead wood regulations and rules. there seems to be none. maybe it's time you all pass a regulation you get rid of two old ones that you don't use. >> we have a proposal to do just that, but there's the rains act, that says if the administration passes a regulation that costs more than a certain amount, they have to have a cost benefit analysis. >> but to big corporations, maybe 20,000 to a small business, i mean it's got to be some way that we don't want the
small business people to get lost in the shuffle because they don't have the huge numbers that a big corporation would. >> no, you're absolutely right. and it's $100 million in its agate, not just for one business, but it's $100 million affect on society. because the businesses don't ultimately pay this cost, greta, it's the american people. so we have in essence doubled the tax on the american people without them even knowing it because of the regulations that washington has him prosed on business. >> you talk to any business person, any job, anyone's got a story about some ridiculous rule and regulation. but everybody's got a story. >> you're absolutely right. and you would be amazed or maybe you wouldn't. there's some individuals in congress that believe regulations haven't harmed businesses, haven't harmed employment. so i urge the american people to call your congressmen and let them know how harmful you think that these regulations are to
job creation, the economy, all the things that the american people know so well. >> it's not just the number of regulati regulations, another metric to look at is the impact of a particular regulation, which may be more punishing that the 50 other ones. >> absolutely, you talked about obamacare in the first half hour. >> we did talk about that and a lot of regulations there. congressman, thank you sir. coming up, new information tonight, an accident or was princess diana murdered? we have new information and you're going to hear it all coming up. coming up. and senator ted cruz, in the the kyocera torque lets you hear and be heard even in stupid loud places. to prove it, we set up our call center right here... [ chirp ] all good? [ chirp ] getty up. call me. seriously, this is really happening! [ cellphone rings ] hello?
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henry paul. he saw a bomb in the back, he didn't learn her identity until the next day. >> i almost cannot see her. because she's underneath the wheel, he's underneath the engine, i i cannot see him. the back left passenger is dead. >> obviously dead? >> he's obviously dead. he doesn't breathe, he doesn't react. he doesn't show any reaction. >> you test it him or -- >> he doesn't react to any moves. this was just very short seconds, i have to act quick. to my senses, he's dead. >> and that would be dodi fayed? >> yes. >> the passengers on the front right seat is alive. his head is his head is through
the windshield. at least he's breathing. he's in pain, but he's alive. so he can wait a few seconds in the catastrophic situation we have to select, you know, we have to triage. >> at that point, you're still the only medical person at the scene, right? i mean this is a matter of seconds. >> right. >> so then what do you do? >> and after my medical assessment, i decide to phone the emergency services because i have to call them and tell them the address and what is going on in this scenario. >> did you know the woman was alive in the back seat? >> she was alive. but she was with almost no reaction. she didn't breathe very well. she didn't react very well, so she was the one who needed the assistance the most urgent.
>> so what are the latest claims about princess dii yaandiana's ? we have the author of "the day diana died." christopher, can you tell us what prompted this new investigation of this 1997 car crash? >> this pops up every once in a while. a soldier, a member of the special services, the sniper in his second court-martial for possessing a weapon at home is known only mysteriously as soldier n apparently revealed to his ex-mother-in-law that the special services had assassinated day diana that it was an elaborate plot. to prevent diana was having a child with dodi fayed who would then be the half brother of the
future monarch. not much credibility here and the guy is described by pretty much everybody as a loose cannon, who has said some terrible things about -- i was part of scotland yard when they conducted operation pageant. to put this all to rest. this was exhaustive investigations of allegations of murder, assassination. and what i wrote originally and this was that henri paul was drunk. that night basically because he was not only drinking, but taking massive amounts of anti-depress ants to get over his emotional problems, he had nine times the legal limit of
intoxicants in his body at the time. it's very unfortunate. it's very mundane. people want to think somebody as remarkable as diana died -- >> did the media get all revved up about? >> the moment al fayed gets behind every allegation of a conspiracy theory. and henri paul, he has family members that would like to believe he wasn't responsible for this horrible things that happened. and the other thing that i wrote about the car that they were driving that night had actually been stolen and ripped apart. he was in a car that didn't work properly. she was being driven by a drunk driver and she wasn't wearing her seat belt. that was the only time anybody could remember because she always used it. it was a great, great tragedy, one of the greatest of the 20th century, i think in terms of the
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caught? >> maybe 40. >> average. >> are you okay? >> how many fish are you going to catch? >> at least 15. >> someone told me 40. >> not me. >> howany are you going to catch? >> all of them. >> all of them? nothing of a confidence problem. >> even i caught a fish. we went hiking to see alaska's bears and after working up an appetite we had pancakes. i cooked the pancakes and they said they were great not the least bit soggy. it was a great time in the great state of alaska. you can get more information on operation heal our patriots. go to gretawire.com to see picture that's is our last call. thank you for being with us tonight i just pu